How could you not know why Cutler has a grudge against you? You must have done something. You obviously must have an idea what his grudge must be about. Give it some thought.

Cutler doesnt have to like you. Don't go calling him immature because you can't deal with it. That makes you the immature one. Remember, he isnt the one trying to diss you publicly. Thats you again.

Im not saying I know whats going on either. Im just saying your post is really negative against Cutler. If you want to make some progress, you'll have to admit your faults in the situation as well. Quit pointing the finger at others.

If I knew why he had a grudge against me, I wouldnt be posting. Why dont you give that some thought.

Secondly, I dont care if he dont like me, I never came here begging for him to like me. I am not trying to diss him pubilicy. Like I said, I cant help but laugh at times when I think about how he acts. He wishes to not talk to me in private, for three years, I will take it public. I believe I have tried hard enough to resolve an issue privately.


I will have to admit my faults? Dood, where the hell have you been? Are you like, not reading anything I wrote? "I appologized to each CaDF personally". I mean I dont think I can be any clearer on that.

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Domey looks similar to me, scary :/

If you wanted to work things out by quitting the moment you had a problem thats your decision. CaDF has many loyal members who stick together. The normal motto is, once you leave you dont come back. We want to build a strong, solid clan. We need people who are mature and can handle being part of a team. We took you in, and if you abandoned us, then its normal we hold a grudge. Some of us will get over it and learn to like you again, realizing you have moved on. Others will take it more to heart and hold a grudge.

The fact remains that you left. Most clans do not appreciate that, especially not the leader.

From what you've said I would infer that maybe he's mad because of you quitting over that. I try to listen to the complaints of my teammates but not everyone can be pleased and when I decide I cant help someone they have to respect that. If they quit over not getting there way I would of course be annoyed. Then again, you may have been justified, but thats not for me to judge, just an opinion. Some people will cut off relations with people they dislike or have something against - sometimes because they just dont want to associate with them, dont want to waste their time fighting, sometimes because they hold a grudge. Thats how it goes. Anyways, hopefully you'll be able to resolve this, but warlocks right, bringing this in the open is definitely going to make people pissed at you, and theres no need to put cutler down publicly. Him doing you a wrong doesnt make him a bad person, its just something you guys have to deal with. If you're just making the post to try to get his attention then fair enough, but you're going to have to deal with people being annoyed about it.

lol wth i just stretched the forum :/

<3 domey

You took me in? Buddy, I helped create the clan. I took you in.

Instead of Cutler getting his goon squad to come defend him, why dont he come do it himself.

Joel, let all of ARC post against me, I dont care =)

Bring em on.

The people are pointing their guns at you

There is no reason to get immature with me Domey. I really doubt I would have needed you to take me in anything. ;) Especially since I was one of the founding CAoT members, and have stuck with the same core of people for over 5 years. You didnt create that kind of loyalty. You MERGED into it. Then you left because you werent mature enough to remain a part of it. Ive never left. Ive never quit. Ive never abandoned my team. I've never abandoned my team, then come posting 3 years later on the forum that im mad the leader I abandoned doesnt like me. A great clan is built on loyalty, commitment and effort. You lack ALL 3.

Your effort to fix any conflict was a quick, "IM QUITTING!". You werent committed to working at making us great, you wanted your way or the highway. And since loyalty never factored in, you chose the highway.

Dont complain that you became roadkill. If you had become successfull somewhere else you would be gloating in Cutlers face now. Instead, you wanna try and bring him down, because CaDF only became greater without you.

CaDF became greater without me? Funny guy you are.

For one, I was extreemly loyal to CaDF, you can ask anyone that. I left because the acting leader wasnt doing his job. I wasnt the only one who thought so either.

You dont even know me, how are you going to say I lack loyalty, commitment and effort. Commitment to what? A leader that wont resolve clan issues? Who just sits back and did nothing? Sure, I wont commit or be loyal to that. But I am loyal to every friend I have that is in CaDF. Effort? Where were you when we were practicing for APL? Because you wernt at any of the practices, ever. Dont gimme that bullshit kid. You were no were in sigh during our first APL season. I was here everyday all day practicing, talking strategy, scouting, arranging practice/meetings. I did just as much as Cutler or Parrot or Jester or anyone else that was a co-founder. I never claimed to do more or less. I lived up to my duty, and when there was a problem at hand, Cutler would not live up to his.

Why did I leave instead of stay? Is it because I hated Fordus at the time? Is it because Cutler wouldnt do anything about it? Sure, those were two factors. But there was also another factor. I knew if I stayed in CaDF that Fordus and I would continue to fight, and that more clan relation problems would arrise, and eventually CaDF could have suffered as a whole because of it. I took my losses and left. CaDF stayed together and is still the great clan I helped build, and I couldnt be happier.

I am not trying to start shit, im trying to end something that has been on going for three years. If you cannot understand that then get fucked. Cutler refuses to talk to me in private. I thought if maybe I came to the public maybe he would atleast comment on the issue.

Like I was talking with someone. Murder and Violent use to hate eachother, I think most of us remember alot of there fights. Untill eventually they forgot why they hated eachother. Maybe Cutler forgot why he hates me, maybe we can retain friendship again, maybe not. Its not that big of a deal to me.

What I just want to know is what I could of done so big, to have someone not talk to me for over three years. That makes me curious, and that is what I want to know. If your gonna flame me because of that, saying I am unloyal and have no effort, get fucked. I put more effort into building CaDF then you did at getting on the computer.

Btw I am in no way taking credit for all of CaDFs accomplishments. CaDF is a great clan as a whole, one person isnt the whole clan. I am just defending myself by stating that I was apart of the group of 6 people that formed the clan.

When I left I realized the mistake I made and I tried to get back in, for the longest time I tried. I tried talking with Cutler so many times to see what was going on, if he would even just talk to me like a man. He never did, and still hasnt.

No I dont want to rejoin CaDF, no I dont care if I am friends with Cutler or anyone in CaDF for that matter, or ARC, I dont care. I am just very curious as to how someone can hold a grudge for three years, of a tiny incident online. And as to of what I did, because I do not recall doing, or saying anything to Cutler to piss anyone off this much.

Personally I have no grudges with anyone. I dont hold grudges in real life nor online. It is a waste of time to be mad at someone for so long for something so small. But I guess we are all different and unique in our own ways, and I am just trying to understand that, and he wont even tell me.

A 2D anonymous game is the "real" you, in my opinion. You drop your real life acts that you have to put on in day to day relationships with relatives, friends, coworkers, and everyone else. That is a scary thought for some people, thinking that this is their real selves, but I really think it is true.

I think Domey's post is important. Just like in real life, you would be better off resolving a grudge someone has against you than taking it to your grave. I respect you Domey just for trying to get that done in any way possible. He's doing it for himself and Cutler. Lots of lessons to be learned here, pull up a chair.

That is what I am trying to do Yak, to just get it out in the open. I would of much rather done this in private.

Maybe I went to far calling Cutler names in the first few post. But why dont you put yourself in my shoes? Try getting ahold of a friend that you had, that you spent alot of time playing with, and then them hating you, for some reason that is unknown to you. Not talking to you for three years. It gets a lil fustrating, then it gets humurous as to how someone can hold that kind of grudges. Makes you curious, and maybe you wanna put it behind ya but you just want some answers first.


Weebo, you commenting on me saying I wasnt loyal or commited or gave no effort, that was a pointless comment. Because you werent even around during those times. So are you just commenting on yourself or what? I am having a hard time understanding where you are comming from, because you dont even know me.

domey i find it sad that you need to go on the arc forums in order to make cutler look bad. I think you should try to work this out with him if you really value his friendship. This will only make things worse.